What You’ll Discover in Major Mark Cunningham Beyond Seduction
Many of these heavy-handed, intrusive techniques are actually a way of screening. You are removing quality women, and only the weaker and more damaged ones will respond .
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Major Mark Cunningham – Beyond Seduction
This is part 5 of six-part interview series Mark Covers topics such as
Where is the future of the seduction industry?
Why seduction can’t be an end in itself
How quality women can be driven away by guys without realizing it.
How to make women feel better
You can listen to the audio player, or you can read the transcript.
Transcript:
Mark Cunningham Interview Part 5 from 6
Frank Kermit: You’re listening to Frank Talks Pleasure and Lifestyles, and I’m Frank because I have to be. Today in studio with Mark Cunningham. What are you doing to get there? Mark?
Mark Cunningham: I’m good. I’m enjoying this.
Frank Kermit: Oh, me too. This is the first seduction-related interviews you’ve done in a long, long time, I believe.
Mark Cunningham: Yes, that’s absolutely correct. People thought I disappeared into the mainstream of hypnosis after I quit the seduction seminars.
Frank Kermit: I have a question about the seduction community.
Mark Cunningham: Sure.
Frank Kermit : I had this conversation with a lot other seduction instructors. How do you envision the future of this group?
Mark Cunningham: Okay, I can give an opinion on where you would like it to go. It is that I would like it to broaden its scope. The seduction is not an end in itself. It’s like taking a tiny little slice of life that’s not all that difficult and blowing it up into this enormous perceived problem and associated solutions.
I would much rather see these people who do have something going broadening their take out to teach more about what it means to be a man in a modern world, and specifically, once you have honed your seduction skills and you’ve developed yourself to the point where you no longer are worried about this, it’s reflexive.
So what do you do if you want to find women that you truly enjoy and build them into your own life? How does that look? What can you do to treat these women on a regular basis? What opportunities and resources are available to you? And what next?
Frank Kermit: You know, I really like this line of thinking that you’re embarking on. I’ve seen this community completely expand on the topic of pickup. It’s all about the pickup. It’s all about your next conquest, and one fundamental thing that’s missing, even amongst some of the instructors and gurus out there, is the lack of relationship management skills, and it amazes me that more people haven’t learned to delve into maintaining relationships because a lot of these well known gurus are able to collect a lot of numbers, collect a lot of lays. They can collect a lot of women in their life, but they can’t keep the women around.
Mark Cunningham: I’m glad you said that, Frank.
Frank Kermit: Well, I’m not mentioning names because I’m not stupid.
Mark Cunningham: Yeah.
Frank Kermit: I don’t mean that. Relationship management is one of my main areas of focus in my work. That is why we are here: to build relationships with women.
Mark Cunningham: Right.
Frank Kermit – I think most guys who study seduction are doing it for one reason: either to find that one girl or get married. They don’t want to be alone. Many of them want families.
I’m part of that category, and learning seduction and pickup is a wonderful step in that process. At the very least, you need to know how to start a relationship. It is an entirely different skill set, however, to be able to maintain a healthy relationship.
Mark Cunningham: Well, to be fair, Frank, when a guy is at the point where he can’t imagine walking up and talking to a woman he actually desires, the idea of, “How do I move through the world, accepting as a matter of course, that highly desirable women will be willing to walk through fire just to make me happy because that’s the best how they want to relate to me,” I mean, that’s total science fiction for these guys.
It would help if those in the seduction industry were to address the larger issues. As they say, “How do you become fully human?” How can you be a man in the world?
Frank Kermit: You know what, I fully agree and one of the things, and I’ll say it again about it, you actually really like women. Your genuine love for women is evident. This is something that I believe is lacking in many seduction gurus who have a lot of hate and frustration with women.
Mark Cunningham: That’s true, and there is a very little trick I use to play on guys on seduction seminars. When they spoke about the intrusive and overt methods they plan to use to manipulate women’s emotions, I would start to use those techniques on my male colleagues in the seminars. This will cause a lot of chaos in the room, even though it is still being discussed. “Why are treating me like this? Why are you trying to manipulate me? Why are you holding me down? Why are you slamming me?” I explained to them what I was doing, and they would be dumbfounded. I replied, “Well, isn’t it okay that I do these things to you?” They’re going. “Well, no. Why would you treat me like this?” And I’m saying, “Well, why would you treat a woman like that? How do you expect she’s going to respond to you?”
Many of these heavy-handed, intrusive techniques are actually a way of screening. The quality women who do not respond to your methods are those who are weak or damaged and willing to take this kind of crap.
Frank Kermit: I agree. When I run into… and this is some advice I’m going to ask from you directly here. I can understand a man who has a tremendous amount of hatred for women when he meets me. I can understand where he’s coming from. My autobiography from Loser to Seducer, when I had hit rock bottom, I certainly didn’t have a lot of love in my heart for women at that time.
Mark Cunningham: Right.
Frank Kermit: It’s easy to understand. It is something I can understand. It’s a feeling of complete frustration. At this point, what I tell a guy is, “Yeah, you are frustrated, but that’s just because it’s your own fault. You have to take responsibility for it, and you’ve got to remember that in the end, if when you want is a relationship, any relationship built on hate is not going to be relationship worth having in the long run.
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